Antiscia
A Technique Used by Uranian Astrologers
& Associated with the Aries Point
 
 ..One interest I have is medical astrology, so I've used Eb
ertin's CSI.(midpoints) for a long time, as well as Eileen Nauman's section on.TNP's in "The America
n Book of Nutrition and Medical Astrology". ..I include midpoints and antiscia in all but horary wor
k.  ..My most recent projects are investigation of a particular set of.earthquakes, jointly with ano
ther astrologer, and long-term.investigation/writing about Native American history (post-Columbian).
  -  JJElkins
 
 
 

JOURNEY INTO DEATH - Robert Donath, $7
        The author's admiration for Bishop James A. Pike (St. John the
 [Image]Divine, NYC) serves as a springboard for an advanced study of
        Uranian rectification methods. Paper.
 
 
 

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Date:          Thu, 12 Mar 1998 04:01:17 +0100
From:          Lorenzo Smerillo <smerillo@rdn.it>
To:            The Uranian Group <juno@kiwi.winz.co.nz>
Subject:       antiscion

I'd like to add a few comments about this topic.

It seems that the term was invented by Firmicus Maternus in the 4th
century CE. What it means is 'reflections' or 'casting shadows in the
opposite direction-- as in a mirror'. The terms has much the same
meaning as Ptolomy's 'bleponta' (tetr. I.15) meaning 'looking at' each
other.

In Ptol. the term is used NOT of degrees or planets, but of the
declination risings and settings of SIGNS over the horizon. It is
Firmicus who uses it as an interpretative method for degrees at which
planets are placed (Mathesis II.29, cf. VIII.3,1-5).

Interestingly Geddings (Arkana Dictionary of Astrology, London, revd ed.
1990) mentions (as always in his annoying book, without proper
references) that Guido Bonatti 'was at pains to distinguish the modern
sense of the antiscion, which he called the 'antiscium (pl. antiscia)
from the declination 'antiscium''.

As far as Ptol. is concerned this distinction should be maintained, he
is talking about risings of signs, not planet placements in degrees. He
sets out the relationship of signs in function of the equinoces (Tetr.
I.15) which gives signs which are 'dominate or dominated', whilst in
function of the solstices (I.16) signs which 'see each other or are
equipollent.' In this Ptol. is in the Egyptian tradition of observation
of constellational risings (such as are the decans).

Firmicus provides us with the only extant Latin horoscope from
antiquity, which he uses to demonstrate his theory of antiscia. The date
of the chart is 14 March 303 CE. The person to whom it appertains has
been identified as Ceionius Refus Albinus, Praefect of The City (Rome)
336-337 CE (and hence a near contemporary of Firmicus himself).

We can look at this chart and wonder what Firmicus was actually up to. I
have calculated it for the date, 14 March 303, set for Rome (12E29
41N54) and checked out several times, deciding that 21.30 GMT was
probably the most likely, given that Firmicus says (Mathesis
II.29,10-20) 'Venus located on the Descendant in the chart' (taking this
to mean, as often in ancient astrological texts, that it was near the
Descendant).

The positions calculated are
 AS 14.14 SC    MC 24.34 LE     MO 14.34CN    SO 24.00 PI

 ME 26.30 AQ    VE  9.38 TA     MA 11.16 AQ    JU 7.12 AR

 SA 17.27 VI       UR 16.55 SC    NE 29.08 CN     PL 16.34 LI 

CH 5.17 AQ        NN  3.25 LI 

Firmicus says that JU is in PI. Wrong. But he is right to point out the
antiscion between Sun and Jupiter, which contradicts what he says about
JU being in PI, obviously. To account for the fact that Refus Albinus
was an adulterer (a high offence under the new laws of Constantine),
Firmicus says 'Mars in Aquarius sends an antiscion toward Scorpio, thus
the antiscion of Mars found Venus located on the Descendant in the
chart...' Which may be a plausible explanation. Until one notices that
UR is on the ASC, which Firmicus could not have known. Or one could look
at the midpoint tree of VE:

VE-135-SO
VE-90-MA
---o---
(ASC)
MO
PL
SA/UR
NE/NN

Which looks to me like a great amount of sexual drive and energy
(VE/MA=SO)in this person, and with the 22.30 midpoints (below the line
---o---) of high emotivity (MO/PL) and a tendency to vagueness in
relations (NE/NN) and some problems with changing structural confines
(SA/UR), for an upper class, politically powerful Roman, adultery might
be indicated (and a common occurance, hence the need for Constantine's
laws, which for their repressive severity read more like something
Cotton Mather and Torquemada could only have imagined in their wildest
dreams, but I'll spare you the details!)

But what I find more striking in this chart is the 12th harmonic aspect
relationships between SA  PL  UR  MO  and the ASC.  There is also a very
striking antiscion between the MO and SA, which leads me to suspect that
Firmicus got whatever Moon position he was using wrong, as well. But
note: the planets in the 12H aspect relationship are all involved in the
midpoint tree above.

So much for the broken bricks and rubble of astrological archaeology.

What does drive me quite around the bend about ancient astrologers is
their lack of consistent method. Firmicus is particularly bad about
this, even worse than Ptol. and Dorotheus: one constantly confronted
with ideas which have no mathematical basis, and thus no connective
congruency between them (e.g. rulerships as related to aspects). 

The issue of antiscions, or counter scions, is perhaps to be seen as a
special case of midpointing. In a very important and often neglected
article of Axel Harvey 'The Unity of Harmonics, Aspects, Antiscions
Midpoints and Other Mean Points' [in John Addey's _Harmonic Anthology_
(AFA, Tempe, AZ, 1983) reprinted from _The Astrological Journal_ XIV/4
(1972)] gives the mathematical formula for all these related pieces of
astrological language. Having *A* mathematical formula is important: it
defines what can be talked about in a congruent manner, and what cannot.

What Harvey points out is that antiscions are a function of the 12th
harmonic when they are based on an agreed fiducial: the Vernal Point, or
Aries Point. Of course what happens mathematically is that all the
equinox and solstice points become involved in this, due to their 4th
Harmonic relationship, so that antiscion or counter scions are in fact
the same thing. What also can be seen is that any point at, say, 7 AR
will also be forming 12H aspects with all points at 7 degrees (aspects
of 30, 60, 90, 120, 180 etc.) and hence drawn into the picture formed by
the points directly related as forming midpoints on the antiscionic
axis. (However, I personally have some serious objections to taking the
12th Harmonic very seriously, as well as its derivative 'zodiac sign'
information, but that is another issue.)

The antiscion is rather special for two reasons: one is the acceptance
of the Vernal Point (which determines what 'zodiac' one is using). The
other reason is related but not the same: the Solar Apex and Galactic
Centre (the point twoards which the Sun is moving and the centre of our
galaxy) are currently located at 2.27 CP and 26.53 SG respectively. This
puts them into a -90- relationship with the Vernal or Aries Point. Of
course this is applicable only to the last 200-300 years. Before that
both these points were in SG. I can see good reason for accepting an
infra-solar-earth relationship of the Vernal Point as an important
measurement indicator, and this is re-inforced currently by the SApex
and GC points.

What is more important, to my way of thinking, is that both these
reasons fit into the mathematical scheme of astrology and remain
congruent with aspects, harmonics and midpoints. In this the Aries Point
functions in a special way like an important degree axis in any other
chart, no matter where that particular degree axis falls. To take an
example one could build a solid case that the supermidpoint SO/MO//AS/MC
is highly central and sensitive in any chart and that its midpoint
structure is quite indicative of what sort of information that chart is
giving us. The Aries point functions in much the same way and may even
contain some information about a wider context beyond the bounds of
Helios' Garden of Whirling Balls!

With my best regards,

Lorenzo Smerillo
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Date:          Sat, 07 Mar 1998 23:20:48 -0500
From:          JJ Elkins <JJElkins@worldnet.att.net>
To:            The Uranian Group <juno@winz.co.nz>
Subject:       Re: ## Jerry:  Antiscia

The Uranian Group wrote:

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> To:            juno@winz.co.nz
> Subject:       Antiscia
> From:          ankastra@juno.com (Gerald A Foulger)
> Date:          Sat, 07 Mar 1998 15:19:36 EST
>
> Hi Steve and Uranians,
>
> Found some more info on Antiscia. In a book titled "Astrology"s
> Special Measurements" Edited by Noel Tyl from Llewellyn Pubs 1994, is an
> article by Tom Bridges "Nodes and Antiscia: The Beginning of Measurement
> in Astrology".  I am still trying to determine if it says how they
> are used or if it is just a history and explanation of what they are?
 

Hi Jerry and Everyone,

I've used antiscia for a very long time, since reading
the works of IvyGoldstein-Jacobson in the 70's.  She described them 
as marking "turning points" when aspected in some way.

I've found them useful in horary, bringing the querent and another
person or object together in absence of another aspect between them.
For instance, for a lost pet, the solstice point of the planet ruling
the pet falling on the Ascendant brought the pet and owner back
together.

For those who haven't worked with SP's (or antiscia), I'll
repeat here a useful diagram from one of Ivy G-J's books:
(Here and There in Astrology, 1964 reprint, p 103)

"Take the planet's REMAINING degrees-&-minutes in the Sign it is in for
the degrees-&-minutes for its Solstice Point.  The Sign to use is the one on
the same line with the planet's, in the following diagram:"
.
         Capricorn........Sagittarius
         Aquarius..........Scorpio
         Pisces .............Libra
         Aries...............Virgo
         Taurus............Leo
         Gemini...........Cancer

For instance, the current antiscia for Pluto (transiting 8 Sag 3.5 at 0h GMT
3/8/98) is at 21 Cap 56.5.  These are points that fall equidistant 
from the Cancer/Cap axis.  The antiscia in fixed signs are 
particularly potent since they are always in signs that square
each other. 

 If you will notice, the other pairs of antiscial signs are
either in semisextile (Cap/Sag... Gem/Cancer) or in quincunx 
(Pis/Lib... Ari/Vir).  These latter two aspect types are said to be 
"in aversion" in Ptolemaic astrology.

In natal astrology, note when transits and progressions fall on the antiscia
of a planet or angular point, and you should see a "reflexive" action 
on the planet.

When antiscia occur mundanely, it's similar to having the two planets in
conjunction.

I've also found the contrascia points to be useful.  These fall at
equidistant points from the 0 Aries/Libra axis.

I would like to hear how Uranian astrologers have used these points, since
I'm new to Uranian studies.  In particular, I would like to know if 
anyone has studied their value when antiscia fall upon midpoints or 
planetary pictures.

Apologies to all if my information repeats something that's already been
sent.  I have just gotten two months worth of posts after a computer 
crash in January, and still have a lot of catching up to do!
 

> In the same volume is an article by Arlene Kramer "Uranian Astrology:
> Practical and Productive". This is an interesting intro to the system
> and was one of the events that got me interested in Uranian
> Astrology. However, it is coming into contact with this list that
> really got me digging into it again.
>
> Also, there is in Chapter 5 of "Uranian Astrology Guide" by Sylvia
> Sherman and Jori Frank an explanation and sort of a use of Antiscia. I am
> still working out how to use them myself. It seems that Antiscia were
> (and are) of some of importance in Uranian Astrology. They were important
> in ancient astrology as they are dealt with in Ptolemy's Tetrabiblos.
>
> Hope things are well with you,
>
> Jerry      ankastra@juno.com
 
 
 
 

From:            "Chanchai"
Date sent:       Mon, 16 Nov 1998 

Dear Steve,

Concerning practical use of antiscia in delineation, I can confirm that
Uranian Astrologers in Thailand normally use antiscia. We always mark
personal point's antiscia on the horoscope with all the other planets and
hypothetical points. We consider them only a little bit weaker than the
actual one. However as antiscia always involves Aries point (The formular
of an antiscion is a = Aries + Aries - a) so in natal chart the antiscia
always imply the character that seen by the public. For example - Sun
(Aries + Aries - Sun) imply the body as appeared amogst the public and
seen by the public. Moreover in prediction on issues concerning the
public, it always turn out that antiscia impose stronger out come than the
real planets or factors. Here we have a software called horoplot, this
software print out all the planets and personal points with their antiscia
on a chart ready for working with the standard metal disk of 6 inches (
360, 90, 45 and 22.30 disks)

Best regards,

Chanchai
 
 
 
 

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Subject: Antiscia article II

Hello to the Group,

The article quotes that I am entering on these two posts concerning 
antiscia were written by student colleagues of Alfred Witte during his
lifetime. These are very old articles, maybe 40 or 50 years old. These two
men Richard Svehla and Otto Wilms were German and studied the astrology of
Witte, as members of his generation, first hand. Therefore, their
teachings, to coin a phrase, come "right from the horses mouth." 

The works of these early student/colleagues help us understand Wittes
astrological thinking, and also how he came to use symmetry and the
planetary picture. Wilms adds another dimension to the Witte astrological
perspective that we regularly use in our prognostigations today. 
 

Otto Wilms and the Antiscia

    "Investigations on Mundane Events lead to the discovery that the
planets corresponding to these events were grouped symmetrically around
the axis (zero degrees) Cancer-Capricorn-Aries-Libra and the transiting
points in 45 degrees from this main axis, producing an eightfold cross."

    "And with the aid of this cross Witte rediscovered the Antiscia, the
"Counter Shadows." Those reflective and sensitive points around the cross
which before him the medieval astrologer Bonati had been using. This study
of Mundane Events made it absolutely clear that the aspects used by
traditional astrology were hopelessly inadequate for the determination of
modern time events."

"And moreover, there was no logical reason that angles of 0, 60, and 120
were regarded as favorable and those of 45, 90 and 180 as unfavorable. An
angle was a means of measure, just as any other measure, and as we do not
distinguish between 60 or 120 good feet and 45 or 90 bad feet, the aspects
had to be reduced to what they were; a measure. This important break with
traditional astrology caused much controversy because from then on the
most beautiful trines and sextiles had lost their evaluation." 

    " With the Antiscia, Witte obtained the research base which later
enabled him to establish his theory of planetary pictures. The means for
the determination of these sensitive points was the mathematical equation.
The starting point of the numericals was the Spring Equinox or 0 degrees
of Aries going counter clockwise to 360 or 30 degrees of Pisces. Antiscia
from 0 to 180 degrees were calculated Cancer plus Cancer minus Planet
equals X (Antiscia), whereby Cancer equals 90 degrees. The Antiscia from
180 to 360 degrees were calculated Capricorn plus Capricorn minus Planet
equals X (Antiscia), whereby Capricorn equals 270 degrees."

END QUOTE:

    We work very often with the 90 degree dial to analyze and predict the
horoscope. When using the 90 degree dial, zero degrees is called the Aries
Axis. This degree includes 0 degrees of all cardinal signs. So that new
students do not get confused, let me clarify that THE ARIES AXIS IS NOT
THE ANTISCIA., but rather the main axis for determining the Antiscia.

Penny
 
 
 
 
 

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From:            Mary Downing <mdowning@allware.com>
Subject:         Re: ## Bill: Antiscia

Hi Folks

I'm picking nits:  Antiscia are anything reflected over the cardinal axis.
It is simply created by either a transit or direction forming a planetary
picture with 0 deg. cards as the midpoint.  Very simple.

However Solstice points only reflect over Cancer / Capricorn.  They are a
pairing of certain signs (as well as planets, points, etc.) and have a
tradition apart from Uranian Astrology and Cosmobiology.  In fact these
signs are considered to be linked in marriages, parent-child, etc.  I
remember Ivy Goldstein Jacobsen was particularly enamoured of them.  I'd
always assumed the concept arose originally  from some esoteric tradition.
 

--Mary
 
 
 
 

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From:            pb <pb@bert-a.com>
Organization:    Penelope Publications
To:              The Uranian Group <juno@winz.co.nz>
Subject:         Re: ##Chanchai: Antiscia & Solstice Points

Hello Chanchai,

Yes, of course you are correct. The Solstice and Equinox degrees 
represent zero degrees of the Cardinal Signs ( the Sun at 0 degrees
spring, summer, fall and winter). These are not called Antiscia. These
axes are known as relating to world events or the public in general. 
However, the calculation for Antiscia incorporates these axes in the
calculation. 

Penny 

> However I disagree a little bit on the meaning of Solstice Points.
> Solestice Points are not the same as Antiscia. Solestices are the points
> in the ecliptic at which the Sun is at its greatest distances to the
> north or south of the equator. These are called the solestice points or
> solestices. The summer solestice is marked by the entry of the Sun in to
> Cancer, the winter solestice by the entry of the Sun into Capricon.
> Reference can be made to  general Astronomy books or Dictionary of
> Astrology, for example "The Arkana Dictionary of Astrology by Fred
> Gettings".
>
> Best regards,
>
> Chanchai
>
 
 
 

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Subject:         Re: ## Antiscia/Bill
From:            land774@juno.com (William F. Land)

Hi Steve, Arlene, Penny, Chanchai & All:

I posted the following to the Hekate group.  It is my response to someone
who was having trouble making formulas of a particular type fit a chart.
There are a few minor changes, corrections, and additions. 

Antiscia are symmetrically arrayed using zero degrees of Cancer/Capricorn
as the axis of symmetry.  This axis is incorporated within the Aries axis
on a 90-degree dial, hence my term, "90-degree dial antiscia" (for lack of
a better one).  So for each point (A) on one side of the Aries axis, there
is another point (B), equidistant from the Aries axis but on the other
side of the Aries axis, that is antiscially related to the first point
(A).  90-degree dial "B" may be square or opposite the actual 360-degree
antiscion of "A".  This holds true of the antiscion of "B" with respect to
"A". 

If you diagram this with the aid of your 90-degree dial (which you
should), it will be obvious to you that: A-0=0-B [the distance of (A-0) is
equal to the distance of (0-B), that is, A and B are equidistant to 0];
A+B=0+0; (A+B)/2=(0+0)/2; thus A/B=AR=0 (the half-sum of A and B is equal
to the Aries Point or zero degrees Aries).  Furthermore, it will be easily
seen that the antiscia of Cardinal signs always fall in Mutable signs and
the antiscia of Mutable signs always fall in Cardinal signs, but the
antiscia of Fixed signs always fall in Fixed signs. 

The following is a re-write of my Hekate list reply: 

Offhand, I have one interesting example of antiscial relationships
working, though I don't mean to imply by giving only one example that this
is a rare phenomenon.  Antiscia are always potentially active, and I
always try to check them to see if they are being triggered.  Using Bill
Clinton's chart [August 19, 1946; 8:51 AM CST, +6; Hope, AR (33N40;
93W35)] and setting up the directions and transits (10 PM EDT, +4;
Washington, DC) for August 17, 1998, the day he publicly admitted to his
affair with Monica Lewinsky, it became apparent that progressed MO
antiscion (16:37 Virgo) was within range of his HAd (Hades directed) axis.
 This axis cluster contained Mn/Md as well (personal assessment of
development and/or reputation at this stage of life). 

Also gracing this axis is (VE/ZE)n.  If you look up this last half-sum in
"Rules..", you will be as surprised as I was; it can mean "sperm or
semen". 
 Being on the HAd axis could indicate that this semen was "old" or
 "spent". The idea of the "semen stain" begins to emerge.  Earlier in the
 day, I 
believe Kenneth Starr may have confronted Clinton with evidence of a match
between the DNA of the stain on Monica's dress and Clinton's DNA. Note the
presence on this axis of (VE/MA)t, which I interpret as "sex love" or
"intimate relationship".  You may want to consider the antiscion of
(SU/MO)d (the antiscial half-sum of directed SU and directed MO) as within
the developing cluster of chart factors including the antiscial progressed
MO axis.  SU/MO is a general indicator of relationships, friendships, and
partnerships. 

Most importantly, Mn+Md-Mt (for 10 PM) transited the 22.5-degree axis of
the antiscial progressed MO cluster.  To me, among meanings of Mn+Md- Mt:
"developing reputation at this particular moment in time", or "personal
state at this minute in terms of an event".  The Mn+Md-Mt axis played host
to (VE/MA)n, a confirmation of sorts that what was happening at that
moment, with respect to Mr. Clinton's reputation, had to do with a sexual
relationship. 

 --Bill 
 
 
 
 

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To:              The Uranian Group <juno@winz.co.nz>
Subject:         Re: ## Antiscia or Solstice Points

Hello All,

Alfred Witte first rediscovered the antiscia of the signs and then applied
them to the degrees of the zodiac in order to develop the 
 sensitive point a + b - c. 

The Antiscia involves what we call the Aries axis (zero degrees Cardinal
Signs). Very well described in the preceding posts, the Equinox and
Solstice points are involved. These points are used as if they were
planets. In short, we refer to them as the ARIES axis. 

FURTHER REFERENCES 
 In two early articles, written before the inclusion of Fredriech
 Sieggrun's 
TNP's two students of Alfred Witte wrote the following in reference to
ANTISCIA. The first article was written by Richard Svehla, original
translator of Rules For Planetary Pictures contracted by Ludwig Rudolph. 

Svehla States:

"Antiscions (also spelled Antiscians - Like most of the other horoscopical
factors, the Antiscions are not new in astrology, but they have been
neglected in modern times. Nothing can be found in modern astrological
books concerning them, with the sole exception of some astrological
dictionaries, and even in these the description of them is so meager 
unsatisfactory as to be practically worthless."

"The ancient astrologers used the ANtISCIONS extensively and at the 
present time there ar e nuimerous astrologers in Europe who are beginning
to use them consistently and with excellent results. What is an ANTISCION.
 The word itself denotes a counter shadow. According to the dictionary, an
" "ANTISCION" " is a dweller on the same Meridian, but on the other side
of the Equator." 

" In astrology we understand the ANTISCION to be something like a reflex-
point equidistant from the pole of the earth - a line running through the
two solstice points, 0 degrees Capricorn and 0 degrees Cancer . . . one on
one side, as the factor whose ANTISCION it is, is on the other side." 

"The pole of the Earth divides the circle of the ecliptic into two 
hemispheres. On the other side there are signs: Capricorn to and including
Gemini and on the other side those starting with Cancer to and including
Sagittarius." 

The ANTISCION sign of Capricorn is Sagittarius

Cap - Sag
Aqu - Sco
Pis - Lib
Ari - Vir
Tau - Leo
Gem - Can

"This means that a planet located in Gemini has its ANTISCION in the sign
of Cancer and the calculation of the exact position is very simple." 

"For example take a position of the Sun in 12 degrees of Gemini. We know
the ANTISCION must be located in Cancer and the exact position would be 18
degrees of Cancer. All we have to do is to subtract the exact position of
the planet from a full sign of 30 degrees. The result is the exact
position of the ANTISCION." 

"An ANTISCION is a zidiacal parallel of the same name, and is a point as
far distant from Cancer zero degrees or Capricorn zero degrees on one side
as the planet is on the other." 

END QUOTE:

When we consider how the ANTISCION (from research with the parallel)
developed, it becomes clear how the sensitive point and planetary picture
then came into being. The planetary picture followed the natural sequence
of events after the discovering the value of the ANTISCION (antiscia).
This post has become so long that I will continue with the next quoted
article by Witte original student, Otto Wilms, on another post. 

Penny
 
 
 
 
 

To:              "Steve Lee" <juno@winz.co.nz>
Subject:         re:Darcy:Solstice Points
Date sent:       Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:59:13 -0200

Hi to all,

(Regarding that Darcy asked about the meaning of solstice points I think
that the following lines will clarify this subject) 

A few concepts about solstice points: I´m limited here to cite what I
found in some books and articles related to the meaning of the solstice
points: 

"...Antiscia or Solstice Points: ...An antiscion (the singular of
antiscia) is a point that is equidistant with a given planet from either
of the solstice points, 0º Cancer or 0º Capricorn. If a planet is in the
antiscion degree of another planet, natally or by progresion, direction or
transit, the two have a relationship that is of the nature of an aspect.
Antiscia, then, are considered like sensitive points..." (DIAL DETECTIVE,
Maria Kay Simms, ACS Publications, p. 93) 

"...If we put a planet or personal point anywhere on the 360º circle we
can easily see that in order to maintain "balance" we would need another
point or planet exactly equidistant from one or the other end of the axis.
These "reflective" positions are referred to as antiscion points... In
personal horoscopes the antiscion points will frequently connect the
person to issues having to do with business or career. The
Cancer/Capricorn axis as well as the Aries/Libra axis represent "the
world", the generality. You can direct the antiscion points by Solar arc,
direct other planets to them, and use them with transits also... When a
natal position directs to the antiscion, something usually occurs that
affects your relationship to the world..." (HIGH POINTS OF URANIAN
TECHNIQUES", from classes given by Wayne Booher, in NCGR "The National
Council for Geocosmic Research", Winter, 1991/1992, p. 23/24). 
 

(Now comes one of the most ancient texts about antiscions that perhaps can
be useful for those who want to know a little more about this important
subject. I omit here "brevitatis causae" the very extense explanations
given by the author for finding the antiscia points). 
 

"...    The antiscia of the Greeks have been handed down by tradition. I
do not wish anyone to think that this topic has not been discussed by the
Greeks. For even Ptolemy followed no other theory but that of the
antiscia. Antiochus, when he said that indeed Libra did not see Aries
because the Earth was in the middle, as if through a mirror reached the
theory of the antiscia. Dorotheus of Sidon, on the other hand, a very wise
man who wrote about forecasting by the stars in very accurate and learned
verses, explained the calculation of the antiscia in clear terms in his
fourth book... All these we must now consider with careful inquiry so that
our respectable profession should not at any time be dishonored by
fraudulent lies in forecasts..." 

"... Thus if, in computing the chart, some of the planets are not in
aspect, it must be asked whether they are connected to each other through
the relationship of the antiscia. For when they send an antiscium in such
a way that they are in aspect through the antiscium, in trine, square,
sextile, or opposition, they portend just as if they were thus located in
the normal arrangement, and all of these various influences fit together
in the final calculation. When you do this you will easily be able to find
out everything 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Date sent:       Wed, 9 Dec 1998 07:22:08 +1300

Dear Uranians,

I have received the cost of the Thai software Horoplot, along with an
image of one of the windows, showing English translations along with the
Thai language notations.  This software draws in the locations of antiscia
points (we have had several posts on this).

The expected price for the program will not be more than 4,000 
Baht (At the moment 1 US$ = 36 Baht). 
This is approximately $111 USD.

For further information, contact the software owner,
Mr. Padung    <nontaa@ksc.th.com>

Steve Lee
 
 
 
 

To:              "Steve Lee" <juno@winz.co.nz>
Subject:         re:Darcy:Solstice Points
Date sent:       Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:59:13 -0200

Hi to all,

(Regarding that Darcy asked about the meaning of solstice points I think
that the following lines will clarify this subject) 

A few concepts about solstice points: I´m limited here to cite what I
found in some books and articles related to the meaning of the solstice
points: 

"...Antiscia or Solstice Points: ...An antiscion (the singular of
antiscia) is a point that is equidistant with a given planet from either
of the solstice points, 0º Cancer or 0º Capricorn. If a planet is in the
antiscion degree of another planet, natally or by progresion, direction or
transit, the two have a relationship that is of the nature of an aspect.
Antiscia, then, are considered like sensitive points..." (DIAL DETECTIVE,
Maria Kay Simms, ACS Publications, p. 93) 

"...If we put a planet or personal point anywhere on the 360º circle we
can easily see that in order to maintain "balance" we would need another
point or planet exactly equidistant from one or the other end of the axis.
These "reflective" positions are referred to as antiscion points... In
personal horoscopes the antiscion points will frequently connect the
person to issues having to do with business or career. The
Cancer/Capricorn axis as well as the Aries/Libra axis represent "the
world", the generality. You can direct the antiscion points by Solar arc,
direct other planets to them, and use them with transits also... When a
natal position directs to the antiscion, something usually occurs that
affects your relationship to the world..." (HIGH POINTS OF URANIAN
TECHNIQUES", from classes given by Wayne Booher, in NCGR "The National
Council for Geocosmic Research", Winter, 1991/1992, p. 23/24). 
 

(Now comes one of the most ancient texts about antiscions that perhaps can
be useful for those who want to know a little more about this important
subject. I omit here "brevitatis causae" the very extense explanations
given by the author for finding the antiscia points). 
 

"...    The antiscia of the Greeks have been handed down by tradition. I
do not wish anyone to think that this topic has not been discussed by the
Greeks. For even Ptolemy followed no other theory but that of the
antiscia. Antiochus, when he said that indeed Libra did not see Aries
because the Earth was in the middle, as if through a mirror reached the
theory of the antiscia. Dorotheus of Sidon, on the other hand, a very wise
man who wrote about forecasting by the stars in very accurate and learned
verses, explained the calculation of the antiscia in clear terms in his
fourth book... All these we must now consider with careful inquiry so that
our respectable profession should not at any time be dishonored by
fraudulent lies in forecasts..." 

"... Thus if, in computing the chart, some of the planets are not in
aspect, it must be asked whether they are connected to each other through
the relationship of the antiscia. For when they send an antiscium in such
a way that they are in aspect through the antiscium, in trine, square,
sextile, or opposition, they portend just as if they were thus located in
the normal arrangement, and all of these various influences fit together
in the final calculation. When you do this you will easily be able to find
out everything which is looked for in men´s destinies. For there is a
theory underlying the nature of the antiscia which is strengthened by
universal agreement; this theory I shall take care to explain to you at
another time..." 

"... Putting all these things together you will discover how much force
there is in the antiscia. If anyone follows up this topic with careful
study the trend of his forecast will never fail him while he is studying
the fate of men..." 
 ( MATHESEOS LIBRI VIII, Ancient Astrology Theory and Practice, by 
Firmicus Maternus -Fourth Century A.D.-, Noyes Classical Studies, Noyes
Press, Chapter XXIX, p. 58/68) 

I hope that this helps the understanding the antiscia´s concept.

Mariano
 
 

From:            GarFairies@aol.com
Date sent:       Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:51:51 EST
To:              juno@winz.co.nz
Subject:         Re:  %% Darcy: solstice point ?

Darcy wrote "What is a solstice point in Uranian astrology?  Does it have
to do with solar arcs" 

Hoo Boy.  Solstice Points are a wonderful way to add in a wealth of detail
in your chart.  If you haven't added them into the mix I recommend that
you do so immediately and start amazing yourself at the added information.
 

The technique on the dial is easy.  Just place your planets and points on
the inner edge of your dial that you turn around, so that you have your
stuff on the flat page and on the dial.  Then place the pointer of the
dial on a planet (this represents the Aries Point, right?) on the paper
and then find the planet on the dial and mark the spot on the paper with a
different colored ink than the original markings.  I usually use blue for
natals, red for solstice and green for transits (actually I use a piece of
transparent film placed over the paper for the transits and mark them on
that with a dry erase marker and put the dial on top of both). 

When you are working with the solar arc it's then easy to see if your
natals hit anything on the paper as they are marked on your dial. 

I also have included the major midpoints onto the dial, not too many as
there wouldn't be any room left for the numbers. 

Think of a solstice point as the echo vibration of the planet.  I think it
has to be involved with complex mathematics and how all this vibrational
stuff affects us.  Not really sure but Roger Jacobson's book goes into the
technique in detail.  Also solstice points have been used for centuries. 

yakshi
 
 
 
 

 
 

 
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