07 Jul 1998 13:03 +1200
The Buddha's natal interpretation !
1 May 573 BC 9am.
Lumbini 28N00 85E00. TZ +5.5
The Buddha was born at the full moon in May,
which gives him a Taurus sun and a Scorpio
The Buddhist teaching is quite structured eg four
noble truths, eightfold path, perhaps one of the few teachings with
structured path to a goal. The Scorpio moon is evident in his summary
his teaching: " I teach one thing and one thing only. Suffering
ending of suffering".
The Buddha's mother was heading back to her parents town for the
birth, when she went into labour and he was born in a grove.
Assuming that the party would have left early in the morning
so as to
avoid travelling in the heat of the day, 9 am would be ok
for a birth
time - giving a Cancer ascendant.
I haven't had a good look at the chart and haven't plotted the TNPs.
Sun mercury Venus Uranus Neptune and Pluto are in Taurus
Subject: %% The Buddah was a Taurus
Date: Sunday, 5 July 1998 08:49
>Frankly speaking--I find TAURUS to be the MOST clairvoyant sign in
>the zodiac. Why? Because they can GROUND/MANIFEST the energy
I seem to have lost my file on the natal chat of the Buddah, but as
recall, not only did he have his Sun in Taurus, but 4 or 5 other planets
as well (a stellium). Perhaps my friend George Skuse can help
here - I
think that he has the chart details (George just joined our new group).
There has been no greater 'clarivoyant' than the Buddah.
Date: Mon, 6 Jul
1998 11:19:40 EDT
LOL Penny. "The ball's in your court". Good one!
As if I don't have enough to do.
Yes I agree that this format is somewhat better or rather more satisfying
or rather instantly gratifing but I WANT MORE!!!!!!!!! There
was a point
in time 7 years ago when I felt like I was channeling Mr. Witte while
was working with the dials. I was definitely channeling someone
more than I because techniques were flowing into my mind as fast as
could grasp them. Then the mundane realm took over and reality smacked
into day to day awareness and so the diving into charts was put aside
making money took over.
When I turned 48 last November I decided that I had had enough of all
Saturnian tears on my MO/HA/JU and Admetos opposite (or rather) on
and that the stress of my boring existence was just too much to handle
that I wasn't being true to who I was, just being a 24hr work-a-holic
("I'm stuck inside the life of drudge, always doing dishes...").
tired of living on the highway with the constant susurush of the cars
lack of walk-by customers. So I 'created' a crisis to have to
(Ah the joys of the subconscious mind, "you are unhappy but don't want
deal with it? well let's do something about changing it") and ended
moving 60mi away from family, friends and customers to a wonderful
on the shores of Clearlake California that was half the rent and the
amount of space where the only annoyances were the noisy next door
neighbours who occasionally step out of bounds. (Like the 4th
with the comment at full voice at each boom of the fireworks "Yeah!!!!!!!
Bring it on Home!". Oh plueeeze, after 300 of those you sort
of want to
send HIM on home).
Now every morning instead of the traffic noise and the constant bump,
of the loose manhole cover, I look out at the quiet lake and see the
reflections all around of trees, sunlight and algae in the water.
mornings the lake is smooth as glass and then there are the mornings
the wind whips up and the surface is extremely choppy. Just like
Here I am next to this giant reflecting pond and I'm actually happy.
a water sign next to water and the psychic energies come to the surface
full force. Now my big thrill of the day is to see Carp leaping
the waters and listening to the thwack of their bodies as they come
On Admetos in Taurus:
Eileen Nauman of Athena Garden mentioned that Taurus was a very psychic
sign. I had always thought that it wasn't. Thought that Taurians
deeply involved with gaining money and possessions, but now upon
"reflection" I realize that there is intuitive wisdom which runs through
nature and therefore since Taurus is connected (rooted) to the earth
I really shouldn't be cursing Admetos in Taurus aspecting my Scorpio
I should turn around instead and look clearly at the subtle undercurrents
which are flowing through Taurus and therefore me as it journeys through
my 2nd house. Now that SA is there approaching a conjunction,
I need to
understand instead of fearing the worse. To top it all off, the
eclipse that everyone is chatting about next year is at the same degree,
oh what fun.
Admetos allows (or 'forces' depending on your point of view) one to
on one subject or one detail. I looked up the combination in
for SU + AD and it said "Perseverance." Hmmmm, that sure sounded
way I was acting while desparately hanging onto a place of business
home and not making enough money for all the bills but persevering
day opening up my shop and taking orders through the internet (I have
mail order sewing business). But it was not enough.
So I looked some more to see what else was in the mix. My natal
SU is x
PL (Scorpio to Leo) at 18' - 19' fixed. With AD aspecting that
looked up in the Rules under SU + AD - PL to find the following statement:
"Transformation." Ah! Now that makes a lot of sense.
I have been
transforming in several ways. First of all there is the menopausal
(memory departing, body changes, crankiness, etc), then there was the
change of environment, but most of all the transformation from the
work-a-day drone into fulfilling the seeds of my abilities on all levels.
Because these planets or energies are in fixed signs the changes and
transformations take a while, unlike the quick fast energy of cardinal
movement, to sink in.
Ok so I see that through perserverance there is transformation.
could go on a diet and this time it WOULD be successful. Or I
a project and perserver and it could transform my money and career.
Penny maybe a revival of the Uranian Forum is indeed called for ....
will have to look more closely at my "mix" to see.
Any idea where Bill Meridian is? Maybe someone else knows about
space probes. Sure would be neat if Mr. Witte's calculations
validated by the "scientific" world.