Date sent: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:40:41
[ Moderator's note: this letter is from the Uranian
list. In my
opinion, it is one of the best posts on the topic
of 'good and bad'
influences, and is worthy of printing and studying.
- Steve ]
Referring to my previous definition of "good-bad", my further
justifications are as follows:
1. Jupiter alone always bring good things as given in the (book of)
Rules, i.e. Gaiety. Contentment and happiness, Good luck,
money, success. In combination with malefics, good or bad
outcome may happen depending on whether smart or poor pictures
are involved. The following meanings are taken from the rules.
(combination between Ju and the traditional malefics including the
Ju/Ma: Lucky deed, = Ha: Quick, unusual death.
Ju/Sa: Inconstant success. Successful separation.
Ju/Ur: Sudden luck or misfortune if Ju is posited in poor pictures.
Ju/Ne: Easily acquired money. Shortage of money. Money Losses.
Ju/Ha: Lack of money. To be lucky with raw materials,
Ju/Ad: Gladly spent money. Gains out of raw materials.
>From above it is obvious that Ju always brings goods thing to the
combinations. In the case of poor pictures where malefics prevail,
negative results do happen. However this is not because Ju is not
good. You can look at the rules for the above combination replacing
Ju with Sa to see what happen!
2. Sa/Me is a good combination and already mentioned in the
Rules. If you thoroughly look at the Rules you will find that there
are some other planets when combined with the 6 traditional
malefics may give some good happenings. However the Rules
always give mixed results. Good or bad results again depend on
whether good or poor pictures. If malefics prevail then bad results
will take place. This should be considered exceptions to the
3. In addition to item 2 above, I would like to mention what we
were taught here which is directly concerned with the said
exceptional cases. In Thai Astrology we have a unique combination
of planets call "Kuu Somphon" (The Excellent Matching), where
malefics in combination with some planets, its negative effects will
much reduced if not removed or in some combination become complete
benefic. There are four pairs of this matching as follows:
a) Mars and Jupiter: Mars is basically a very dreadful malefic, not
less than Saturn as it brings all the violence up to death. But
surprisingly in combination with Jupiter almost all the maleficent
characters disappear leaving only very good character of diligence,
courage, activity, etc. All the energy of Mars is directed to beneficial
activities. The Rules also gives the same meanings and the same complete
removal of dreadful characteristics of Mars.
b) Saturn and Mercury: Saturn in combination with Mercury brings
about some good happening and less maleficent but not complete
removal as in case of Mars and Jupiter. When Saturn is combined
with Me, then the restriction, seriousness are directed toward
though and make the native to be more concentrated in his
c) Sun and Venus: Venus when combine with M builds up too
much passion, with Mars may cause too much sexual perversion
(in case of poor pictures) etc. The best outlet for Venus is when
combine with Sun resulting in beautiful body.
d) Node and Moon: Moon is always very sensitive while the Node
involves ties and combinations. So when the Moon combines with
the Node, the native becomes more. Uranian Astrology says
nothing about the excellent matching but if you look at the Rules
you will find that the interpretations are almost the same as above.
Moreover,more pairs can be called the "excellent matching" for example:
and Po, Ap; Ha and Ze; Ne and Pl; Ur and Me, Ju, Kr, Ap, and Po etc.
is the best way to use when giving advice to a native when some bad
pictures are foreseen. For example when Saturn is crossing an existing
picture of Su = Po = Ma = Ur then the native should try to be
some action concerning religion to already satisfy what is required
else serious accident to life may happen, etc.
4. In a planetary picture with Ju and other benefics with malefics
where malefics are prevail. When Ju is triggered good things
happen and the bad structure is also triggered and will happen. We
can not blame Jupiter for this.
For example in a picture: Ju = Sa/Ne = Ve, when a directed
personal point activates Ju, the Sa/Ne = Ve will be activated as
well. The native will be lucky in some issues from the activated Ju
but also the bad meanings of Sa/Ne = Ve will also happen (in this
case the possibility of diabetes). This example is quite clear that
even Ju = Ve, diabetes is possible to come together with good luck
but it has nothing to do with Jupiter at all. Also Ju+Ha-Ne
represents tuberculosis of the lungs or worse cancer of
the lungs. Then
Ju is bad?
5. In my opinion the most critical issues in life for most people on
are happiness and sufferings. So broadly speaking in principle Ju
represents happiness (good?) and Saturn represents difficulties (bad?).
With other definitions on good – bad, yes this scenario will be changed