Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:27:14 +1300
Dear Pax and Midpointers,
After reading "Working With Astrology" by Harding
and Harvey, I decided to
follow my transits to midpoints on a 45 degree
modulus using a Cardinal -
Fixed- Mutable sort (see the 101 web site
for further information). This
included the inner planets, and I also used
regular transits such as
sextiles and semisquares to radix points.
Every day I tracked up to 30 or
more transits. I did this for about two years,
and did my calculations by
hand, using an ACS C-F-M print-out and
an ephemeris. I wrote down the
possible manifestations for each planetary
combination. It was indeed a
lot of work, but I had the time; it eventually
took about 20 - 30 minutes
Needless to say, I learned about midpoints
! Solar Fire can do a CFM
sort, or this can be ordered from ACS.
I highly recommend this technique
for anyone wanting to learn about midpoints.
Progressions and directions
can be added along with the TNPs, and you
do not have to use the inner
I still have hundreds of pencilled notes in
COSI that confirm that for me,
"it worked". Since I have a "skeptical
scientific" background, I was
careful not to read into / imagine a manifestation.
In the end, I
concluded that for over 90% of combinations
/ planetary pictures, I could
account for manifestations. However,
there were a few tricks that I
** Sometimes the manifestations occurred in
** Sometimes I observed the manifestations
happen in other people, or in
the story of a book that I was reading,
or on a television screen.
** Sometimes the manifestations were psychological
and thus could be
hidden by denial, habitual thought patterns,
** I had to be aware of my inner world, not
just external events.
** Often I had to reinterpret the descriptions
given in COSI, Rules, Rob
Hand (etc.). That is, I still followed
the fundamental concepts (mainly
in COSI ), but expanded on the possible manifestations.
** Sometimes other transits masked or combined
the particular one I was
trying to understand.
** Progressions and directions should also
be taken into account.
** If there was a lot of confusion or a variety
of sensory input or stress
in my environment, then it was more difficult
to see the manifestation.
Examples could be: meeting many people, doing
chores, having the radio /
TV in the background, reading too much, an
overload of family or work
demands, etc. Being too busy clouds
the mind an distorts perceptions.
** Alternatively, if I had a "refined environment"
with few occasions of
sensory intrusions, combined with meditation
and other self-awareness
exercises, then the manifestations were much
easier to locate.
Pax, the transit that you are questioning is
Mars to natal MC.
This is an ego-centered energy combination
[aims, objectives, determination, decisions,
etc.]. It it sometimes
difficult to see an ego-centered energy manifest
since it is so very close
to ourselves, the ego. Someone else close
to you may have easily seen the
Ma / MC energies manifest in your life !
Date sent: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:18:09
Paxton wrote of his disappointment on Mars transit of the MC.
In my experience all significance events in life are accompanied
significant event in the sky, however all significant events in
are not always accompanied by events in life.
I view transits and directions a signifying potentials, so if you
around looking for arguments during this transit you will probably
to remember. I don`t know who said it originally but the saying
stars impel but do not compel' (probably mis-quoted) is very true.
Sitting at home waiting for an event to happen during a transit will
probably result in pretty minor results (like lighting a gas heater).
everybody's gas heater blew up during a Mars MC transit would be
empirical proof of astrology but I can live without proof like that.
Date sent: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:34:24
I commend you for the attention to the daily transits, but I don't
think transits alone tell the story.
After reading Arlene Kramer's excellent article in TMA, previously
posted on this list, and The Dial Detective, it seems to me that
another approach is to list out all of the natal planetary pictures
visible on the dial, which show the potential or promise,
Solar Arc Directions (i.e. 1 degree/year around the dial) to determine
when the promise will most likely manifest.
It also seems that a manifestation may not occur unless there are
repetitions of the theme or the degrees. Since everything
is viewed in
relation to the natal, the probability is increased with the additional
factors of secondary progressions and transits to natal positions.
Since I am also fairly new to Uranian techniques, I'm not sure if
accurate, but this is how I have been approaching this study.
Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:48:14 EST
I hope this isn't too traditional in application
but I have a few thoughts
related to Paxton's quandry concerning
1. There is an old saying in traditional astrology--you
can have aspects
and not have events--but you can't have events
without aspects--we may be
talking midpoints--but we are still talking
astrology--and I would think
this holds as true with working in midpoints
as with any other technique.
2. Was transiting Mars conjunct the IC or conjunct
the MC--on the 360
wheel--if conjunct the IC, then you have the
event--you brought fire
(mars) into the home when you lit the heater.
Just because we are
examining midpoints does not mean that we
should divorce ourselves from
everything else we know about astrology--as
least not imo.
3. Transiting Mars will hit the IC or MC once
every year--because it has a
two year cycle around the Sun. This
is a noticable difference from
Jupiter with its cycle being 12 years and
thus at the IC or MC --every 6
years. Then there is Saturn, Uranus,
Neptune, Pluto--the other
traditional planets. Each one has a
longer and longer cycle--Having Mars
or even Jupiter at the IC or MC is nothing
like have Saturn sitting
there--in other words, the slower the planet
the greater the impact when
it hits an angle.
4. The whole chart has to be taken into consideration.
What midpoints are
activated when the MC or IC is hit.
These are the energies that would
have the potential of being set off with any
5. I could go on but this is probably enough
Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:17:19 EST
I spend most of my time trying to experience
and record immediate transits
using Uranian techniques to help me understand
the system. I have
recently been put off due to the most recent
transit of Mars to my natal
MC. I found the exact time and quitely
waited. It was to occur this
night at 10:54 pm.....and I have nothing to
record...besides lighting my
gas heater. My natal Mc at 34deg33 has
= A/Kr = No/Ha....and natal mars
hits it by the 22deg30 at 57deg33.
Was there now event due to the fact that I
have no SA planets in either
the 34deg33 or 79deg33 (at the opposite end)....or
that the transiting
planet was not a PP? I don't understand.
I would imagine that having a
planet hit opposite a PP like the MC would
produce some kind of noticeable
or recordable event....not that I am eager
to have events occur...but I am
eager to witness and understand the use of
Help me understand..please