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From:          "Lee Kniess" <lakniess@ptd.net>
To:            "The Uranian Group" <juno@winz.co.nz>
Subject:       Re: ## Veronica's Explanation and Rectification
Date:          Sat, 7 Mar 1998 09:19:38 -0500

Veronica:

If you are interested in rectifying your chart, it may be easier to use
other events in your life as the starting point and then checking it with
what you listed in your explanation.

When I was first introduced to Uranian Astrology, Calvin Hanes (the
Astrologer, asked me a number of questions about significant life events and
then used solar arcs for the dates of these events to rectify my chart. Two
other astrologers used the same process to confirm the time.

Some of the events that were used were:

Date of Marriage, Serious accidents, Birth of children, Death of parents.

Looking over Hans Niggemann's "The Key to Uranian Astrology" I assume you
could use any of these  formulas : M+Cu-Su, M+Kr-Ar=Cu, Ar+Ar-Cu, Ar+Cu-Ma,
No+Cu-M, No+Cu-Su, Ma+Cu, Ma+Cu-Ar, Cu+Kr-M. Hans lists almost three pages
on marriage from state of, to remarriage of a widow (Mo+Sa-Cu, Ma+Cu-Ha=Mo).

>From what I have been told, using these  events should make the process of
rectification a little easier.

Lee Kniess
 
 

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To:            juno@winz.co.nz
Subject:       rectification
From:          ankastra@juno.com (Gerald A Foulger)
Date:          Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:34:38 EST

Dear Steve and Uranians,

 The topic of rectification came up recently and I have heard that
Uranian techniques are quite useful in attempting this rather esoteric
area.

     I happened to say something about rectification in front of some
friends and bingo, I get a call from a lady who would like me to take a
shot at it. I did tell her it was not my area, but if she was in no hurry
I would use her as an educational opportunity. She sent me a rather
detailed list of events of her life (with dates, etc., she does have some
Virgo). I have run across some mention of rectification in Uranian and
Cosmobiological literature, but no details. 

Does any body have any references that I might pursue or what I might
take a look at in attempting this? To make this more fun, this lady does
not even know what part of the day she was born in. She was born in the
Orient and has no records.

If anyone could enlighten me and perhaps others on the list, it would be
most appreciated.

Jerry
 
 

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Date:          Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:30:23 +1300
From:          Scott Marryatt <rsmarryatt@xtra.co.nz>
Reply-to:      rsmarryatt@xtra.co.nz
To:            The Uranian Group <juno@winz.co.nz>
Subject:       Re: ## Rectification: Jerry

The Uranian Group wrote:
> 
> ------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
> To:            juno@winz.co.nz
> Subject:       rectification
> From:          ankastra@juno.com (Gerald A Foulger)
> Date:          Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:34:38 EST
> 
> Dear Steve and Uranians,
> 
>         The topic of rectification came up recently and I have heard that
> Uranian techniques are quite useful in attempting this rather esoteric
> area.
> 
>      I happened to say something about rectification in front of some
> friends and bingo, I get a call from a lady who would like me to take a
> shot at it. I did tell her it was not my area, but if she was in no hurry
> I would use her as an educational opportunity. She sent me a rather
> detailed list of events of her life (with dates, etc., she does have some
> Virgo). I have run across some mention of rectification in Uranian and
> Cosmobiological literature, but no details.
> 
> Does any body have any references that I might pursue or what I might
> take a look at in attempting this? To make this more fun, this lady does
> not even know what part of the day she was born in. She was born in the
> Orient and has no records.
> 
> If anyone could enlighten me and perhaps others on the list, it would be
> most appreciated.
> 
> Jerry

Hello Jerry and others interested in rectification,

The following are references to articles/lessons in English that I am
familiar with which cover the subject of rectification from the Hamburg
School perspective:

1.  The Richard Svehla course, lessons 21 to 25, - (doesn't include the
last 4 tnp's or Pluto.)

2.  Udo Rudolph and Ruth Brummund "Handbook of Techniques for the
Hamburg School" pages 68 to 84. 

3.  Rectification and Sun Positions, by Udo Rudolph - article in Uranian
Forum.  Vol. XXV

4.  Rectification of bush's Chart, by Nick Sutherland - article in UF
Vol. XXIV

5.  Beginner's corner, personal points rectification, using 30deg
series, ie down to 3deg45' by Nick Sutherland.
Vol.XXXIX

5.  Beginner's corner, personal points rectification, using 30deg
series, ie down to 3deg45' by Nick Sutherland.
 

6.  Once a reasonably accurate Meridian has been found, the use of the
Progreesed Daily Meridian is useful for validating this point. (MC)
See articles by Thomas Doharty, UF Vol. XV, and by Ruth Brummund, UF
Vol.XXIV.

When the birthtime is known to within about +/- half an hour, I have
found the method using the Sun positions of family/friends very useful.
For this one needs the date and country of birth - time not required -
of at least 8 - 12  family members and very close friends and/or
colleagues of the native.  See  3. above. 
There was also a set of tapes and manual covering the Uranian Conference
in Florida, 1988, which included Udo's demonstration of this method.  I
don't know if this is still available from Penny Bertucelli. 
 
Jerry, attempting rectification without an approximate time of birth is
a big ask!  To take this on as a first excersise in HS rectification is
courageous to say the least!!  Good luck.

Scott
 
 
 

Date sent:        Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:16:00 -0800
From:             Jonathan Tenney <joyati@slip.net>
Organization:     Upaya Institute
To:               The Uranian Group <juno@winz.co.nz>
Subject:          Re: ## Rectification: Jerry

This is a reply to Jerry's request for information regarding
rectification:

When the hour of the day is not known I have found it useful to
 begin the rectification by using the Sabian symbols.  The Sun will 
be in one of two possible degrees.  The owner of the chart will 
undoubtedly have a resonancewith one of those degrees over the other. 
 Once the degree of the Sun is established you will have narrowed 
your search somewhat. The next step is to look at the degree 
possibilities for the Moon. The Moon's motion varies between about 1 
1/2 to 2 degrees per hour. It is often possible to zero in on a Lunar 
degree using this method. Once that is established,  you can use the 
more traditional techniques of progessing the angles in relation to 
events.

Jonathan
 
 
 

           U4@kiwi.winz.co.nz, U5@kiwi.winz.co.nz
Date:          Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:10:45 -0500
Subject:       Re: ## Jerry: Rectification
Organization:  Brookline Public Schools
 

>> To:            juno@winz.co.nz
>> Subject:       rectification
>> From:          ankastra@juno.com (Gerald A Foulger)
>> Date:          Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:34:38 EST
>> 
Hi Jerry and Fellow Uranians:

Here is the information I want to share with you on rectification.

The idea in rectification is that for every relevant event in life,
there is a point to point connection in the chart.  But the trick is to
think backwards.  Rectification is prediction moving backwards in time.
It seems to be  a matter of  balancing mathematics with an
understanding of astrology and a dose of intuition.
 

While a list of events is helpful, you can also look at the birthday
specifically, and the time movement over a 24 hour period.  In a day,
the chart factors that move noticeably are angles and Moon.   Two
timing tips to keep in mind: 

  Every 4 minutes in time changes 1 degree on Ascendant. 
  Moon moves 1 degree every 2 hours.

The most accurate method for rectifying, (according to Canadian Ron
Bippus) given these timing tips, involves use of Solar Arc Directions,
i.e. using the apparent daily motion of the Sun as the yearly arc
(Solar Arc).  The principle in Solar Arcs is 1 degree = 1 year, and is
best viewed on a 90 degree dial.  Ron says you can move clockwise or
counterclockwise--it doesnt matter, since the mathematical
relationships between any planet and angle is the same either way. 
Using SA Directions, you can begin to see patterns.  1 degree of
movement = 1 year of life, with attention paid to determining angles.

A planet directed across an angle, or an angle directed across a planet
will produce certain predictable events, when the direction conjoins
precisely.  No orb or tolerance with this technique is allowed.  (Some
attention is best paid to the nature of the events the client provides
you with.    There is some suggestion that the exact day of the
decision leading up to an event is a critical factor in determination,
rather than the event.  But this is why sudden deaths work well,
combining decision date with an event.)

Another method involves the Moon.  Jayj Jacobs of California explained
this to me.   On a 30 degree graph, or a 360 degree  dial  (the Uranian
equivalent of a 30 degree graph), graph the Moons aspects--applying and
separating--over the course of the day in question. (Graph 0-30 degrees
on the horizon axis and period of time of given events--i.e. over 3
years, 10 years, etc. on the vertical).   Since the client has
characteristics of some aspects and not of others, s/he would have to
be born when those aspects are in effect in orb, and would not be born
at other times.  The Moon aspects identify needs, responses, joys, and
moods.  The client either has the emotional qualities indicated by the
aspect or s/he doesnt. A conversation or a q/a session will help to
narrow it down. The range of time of the Moon aspect will limit the
possible Ascendant and house  positions.  With a limited range of
possibilities of the Ascendant and consequential house positions for
each planet, it is a process of elimination  and verification.  On the
360 degree dial, you  play around with it until it fits.  (Dials and
graphs help the visual learner, dont they!)

Verification would include correlations with whatever else is in the
chart, expressions of themes, progression (i.e. 1 day = 1 year) and
transits (specifically Saturn across the angles, which usually times
difficulties or problems on each exact contact, especially on the
Ascendent/Descendant axis).

Programs for rectification:   JIGSAW  (does graphing);  Matrix WinStar
(does TimeScan and DayScan).

Jerry, I hope this helps.  And Ill be curious about your outcome.

All the best.

Paula
 
 
 

Reply-to:      "sos" <sos@netonecom.net>
From:          "sos" <sos@netonecom.net>
To:            "The Uranian Group" <juno@winz.co.nz>
Subject:       Re: ## Jerry replies - rectification
Date:          Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:36:28 -0500

The rectification form we use is posted on our web site - url
http://www.netonecom.net/~sos/rectify.htm
 

With Light,

C. Michael  Smith
Learn to breathe .... play a flute!
http://www.netonecom.net/~sos/Flute1.htm
 
 
 
 

Date:          Wed, 24 Jun 1998 05:57:10 +0000
From:          pb <pb@bert-a.com>
Organization:  Penelope Publications
To:            The Uranian Group <juno@winz.co.nz>
Subject:       Re: ## Paula: Udo's book ?

Hi Paula,
    These articles are reprints from Uranian Forum magazine and workshops that
I have held in South Florida over the years.  The article titles are

Cause and Effect
Discussion of cause and effect, polarities, symmetry.

Alfred Witte's Transneptunians
Combines material to understand Witte's
Cupido, Hades, Zeus, Kronos in their polarities.

Friedrich's Transneptunians
Combines material to understand
Apollon, Admetos, Vulcanus, Poseidon in their polarities.

Primary Numbers and the 360 Dial
See how, in the 360 Dial, the primary numbers form a symmetry
that, when added together, equal the number 9. The spiritual
9 equals divine energy states Rudolph.

What to Select
Halfsums or Sums?
Using 2 chart, Witte demonstrates how the event is indicated
via Sums as opposed to halfsums.

Rectification Using the Sun
Rudolph demonstrates how to rectify a chart using the natal
Sun positions of family.

    There are two more articles that describe the principles of (uranian)
astrology and the Hanburg School, and alfred Witte's Logo meaning.

    Thanks for asking Paula. I hope this answers your question.

Penny
 
 
 

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8 Feb 98
From Lorenzo:

I also have a study of phased midpoint structures and patterns in the
British Royal Family from 1660 to the present, putting them into a
genealogical continuum. I am also working on a study of the JU/MA
super-midpoint between mother and child, which may be useful for
rectification of birthtimes. For this topic I have a rare case of
twins, one of whom was murdered whilst the other was not: all the
events are timed. I suppose what I have written up on Jonathan's case
counts as a long article too!
 
 

Hello Uranians,

Welcome Lorenzo. I remember you from another list. (Watch out
everybody this man has a razor sharp mind when it comes to astrology
and a depth of knowledge which is simply awesome.)  Your study "of the
JU/MA super-midpoint between mother and child, which may be useful for
rectification of birthtimes" sounds very interesting. Perhaps, when
you have some time, you could elaborate on it. Looking forward to your
contributions,

Veronica.